Owning all stations with full production lines for Water/Wheat/Energycells -> Liquor -> Casino

What's the reason for sending liquor to the own casino? It's just lying there unused in the casino's depot. The same with any other luxury good in the casino, what's the reason to send your own produced goods there?

Selling the liquor right out of the distill does give a decent amount of money, though.

Edit: I saw it now, the citizens there use the liquor and give me money for that. But is it really worth it?

Edit 2:  So I did the observation and the maths:

I set the sell/buy percentage to 0 % on my distill. The casino had enough liquor to use.

In roundabout 10 minutes, my casino used liquor 3 times:

Means the casino used 159 liquor with a price of 313769 credits.

If extrapolated to 180 liquor, I would have gotten 355212 credits

In the same time, my distill sold liquor once for this:

Sooo, it's easy to see, selling directly from my distill is way more proftible by a mere 22%.

What's the point of supplying casinos with liquor and other goods when you can make a lot more money by directly selling stuff from your factories?

There should be an option to enable / disable this mechanic.

Either that or PUT A BEACON ON IT so it can be found at a distance! It's insane to me that an object you need to be extremely close to for it to function has no built-in way of finding it in the chaos that is that mission. There's 20-40 ships flying around at all times and there's almost zero consideration for the amount of visual clutter that entails. Applied Xenology probes don't get moved by munitions, why does the Rift Generator?

Other notes when trying to dev menu my ships out of this mess:

1. Spawning a second generator, deploying it, and taking the wormhole from the dev menu doesn't exit the mission. It just puts you into a new empty Rift sector, which makes it completely useless.
2. Ripcord item doesn't work at all when spawned using the dev menu.
3. Destroying a ship via the dev menu in this empty Rift space removes it from your ships tab, so it can't be towed at a repair dock. Your ships are completely gone if they end up here, including all equipment and turrets. I literally just bricked a 300 hour game because of this unless I want to completely dev mode it back by just giving myself the equipment/resources/turrets back, which really removes all of the fun/achievement it took for me to get them.

I really enjoy this game, but I periodically quit for long periods of time when I run into things like this. The game is fun except for absolutely terrible, frustrating instances like this that are mostly due to just a simple lack of refinement of game mechanics.

My R-miners won't pick up their ores..., I have all the necessary bits like a transporter block, the transporter software and a loot collection range slot. No matter what I try my miners won't pick up the loot, is this a change in a recent update or is my save broken?

I have plenty of hours in the game and I know what I'm doing, just strange they've all stopped picking up the ores.

How do you use turrets on a docked ship, while in the mother ship? And just for anyone who comes to this, or if I come back a year later or something, can we get a step by step checklist? Or video/pictures, because this is really disheartening man. 

It seems to be a common question in the discord that goes mostly unanswered as no one knows a crystal clear answer to it, but there are several stations that have a tooltip mentioning they "Attract NPC Traders" BUT I am not sure if this means that it will attract traders to that specific station for the trades that it allows OR if it will actually affect the entire system, increasing the amount of NPC traders that will show up at other stations in that system to sell/buy goods. 

Given the lua code, the latter does not seem to be a thing at all given how npc traders seem to be on a fixed semi-random cooldown before they show up that does not seem to be affected by the SupplyDemand variable or anything like that.

So...

Are trading outposts, military outposts and other stations with that tooltip able to affect other stations or... Was that just an ambiguity with the tooltip?

Best regards! 

would using colored icons in the notes section of the MAP, be useful?

(as in standard Ore colors and possibly more icons, definitely more icons)

again, in the “add note” option when viewing galaxy map.

I'd like to set relations with an NPC faction. I am familiar with grinding up by clearing pirates and whatnot, but that's tricky when it's a smuggler hideout so I'd like to use a command. The only instructions I've found via google are to target the entity in question, fire up the debug panel and use the diplomacy settings. However, as soon as I open the debug panel, my own ship is targetted and the diplomacy options (like, neutral, ally, etc.) appear to have no effect.

Can anyone point me in the right direction, please?

Cheers

I like the into the rift DLC as it allows me some different missions and rewards. Here are some observations and suggestions about the DLC

• (Spoiler) I have tried several missions and they each worked. My favorite is the get the core from an enemy ship. Although running rescue missions until you get a Hunter/Scientist Rank 3 captain is a good idea.
• The new combo subsystems are good/great rewards. 
  • (Spoiler) The one subsystem I (type) I would change would be the ones that give long range hyper jump range with the long cooldown. I won't put long cooldown hyperspace jumps on main line ships as that slows their travel times down compared to using the SXTN-K VIII subsystem plus one or two more +jump with hyperspace cooldown reduction.
  • The only use I find for the long range with increased cooldown is for station ships that I jump once and then build a station. And the existing R-8 to R-14 handle that better than the new combo ones.
• I would increase lighting in the Rift. I understand thematically keeping it dark but I think you lose visual interest there with it as  dark as it is.
  • The beacon path lights should be brighter.
• I can't find a use for the one use beacons you get/buy. They are hard to see, don't show up on map as a highlighted square.
  • I would make them an object you can select from the strategic map.
• The first NPC hunter you get auto talks to you which would be fine if you could do the mission he has with any ship. Instead you need a 22 kt ship (which is really small) and blocks the current Rift mission you had selected from the mission board.
  • To fix
    • Allow any size ship or only have him auto talk if your ship can go on the mission with him.
    • Increase the tonnage of that mission to make it easier to make the mission valid

Notes on the 2.2 patch

• Changes to the Object Detector are good as it makes the ones below Red usable.
• Turret changes are drastic, in my opinion too drastic as it impacts game play in a major way once you reach the barrier. Note I re-rolled my tech 37 turret factory over 40 times.
  • Tesla turrets are reduced in damage at Tech 37. The best electric is 1k DPS/Slot and the best plasma is 1.2k DPS/Slot. The reduction in damage to the electric ones is not worth the 2x damage to engines/energy centers. Update Tech 37 Tesla were over 2k DPS/Slot. The plasma version is usable as a fighter weapon otherwise I don't use this weapon system any longer
  • Launchers seem fairly unchanged (vs Update 2.0). My best two are a 876 DPS/Slot range 36 and an Anti-matter at 755 DPS/Slot range 30. This is one of the main turrets I use in this game now. Note that the launcher projectiles take a while to hit a target which is not always ideal. Always make your launchers with Seeker attribute
  • Railguns have reduced damage since update 2.0. The best I rolled up was 471 DPS/Slot. I ran tests to see what the damage was against shields (50%) and against layered blocks (about 250%). Almost a viable weapon but outclassed at long range by launchers, lasers at medium range and at short range by Bolters and chain guns. Damage is much less than update 2.0 where at tech 37 they could get to 1k DPS/Slot
  • Lightning Cannons - These have been crippled in Update 2.2. With a short battery life (12-26 seconds) and reduced damage they can't compete with launchers, railguns, chainguns, bolters or lasers. The best I rolled up were 500 DPS/Slot electric and 700 DPS/Slot for plasma. In update 2.0 these could do 1.2k DPS/Slot and were a weapon system I used all of the time.
  • Pulse cannons - didn't roll up any that were better than other weapons. No change from update 2.0 as I didn't use this weapon system there either
  • Plasma Cannons - Not enough damage with projectiles with short battery life makes these a weapon system I never use in update 2.0 or 2.2
  • Chainguns - This are doing well in update 2.2. At tech 37 I rolled up ones with 1.2k DPS/Slot with a range of 10. Better than Update 2.0 versions (range and DPS/Slot). The best source of continuous damage (vs shields) in update 2.2 at tech 37. Can be made into a fighter weapon if you want kinetic damage.
  • Cannons - At tech 37 they have about the same DPS/Slot with a longer range than Update 2.0. My best roll is 549 DPS/Slot with arange of 27 and a fire rate of 0.5.  This is a weapon I make automatic fire mode on and let it pick off targets at long range while I focus on other targets. The 549 DPS/S is increased if it hits unshielded targets up to around 0% to 100% more damage depending target block configuration.
  • Bolters - A solid weapon in update 2.2. Damage is not as high as update 2.0 but for update 2.2 it comes in at a solid 639 DPS/Slot with a range of 12. Note that against hull this weapon has a 212% damage increase. A good turret as a finisher on unshielded ships.
  • Lasers - At tech 37 almost the same as Update 2.0. Best ones in this game are 879 DPS/Slot with a range of 17, 45 second battery (26 recharge time) and a 704 DPS/S plasma version range 14 with 42 second battery (26 recharge). A solid weapon system at tech 37 if you want fast accurate fire past 10 km
• Turret Factory - changes
  • I like the chance at red turrets now.
  • Lower quality turrets no longer seem viable. When doing this write-up I realized that not a single blueprint I made at tech 37 was less than gold quality. In update 2.0 I had great white blueprints (only a small decrease in stats than the best gold turrets but much less material use) but this is no longer the case in Update 2.2.
  • I love the re-roll turret factory seed. One of the best new features for update 2.2
• New legendary turrets
  • I like many of the new legendary turrets in this release. 
    • Some of these are good enough to still be used with turret factory Tech 37 turrets. This is change from update 2.0 where all legendary weapons were made obsolete due to turret factories.
  • I expect these will be all replaced with factory turrets at Tech 50 as there are not good sources of Tech 50 legendary turret drops (maybe this is changed in update 2.2 but I don't see where so far).

I have a personal issue when I play though. Due to nerve issues I struggle with holding / straining my fingers too much.

This brings me to the updated jump-mechanism. In the older version I think I pressed TAB to jump (or perhaps it was holding, not sure). But this whole new "hold W+hold SPACEBAR" is causing me a bit of grief. Not a total killer, but it still reduce my enjoyment due to a minor pain.

Is it possible to get a mod / or a fix somewhere, so I can press to start the jump sequence instead of holding the keys?
For example "press CTRL+SPACE" to initiate jump, and for cancelling, just pressing SPACE again?

One thing leads to another, and of course, I wanted to build the Executor, Super Star Destroyer. In the sand-box free-mode I made the frame and armouring of the 19km long ship; I just need the detailing and the inner workings, when I ran into a problem... how do I make it turn?

It's 19km by 5km and over 160 million tons (so far). I can strap a tiny 10x10x10 Trinium engine to it, and it moves forward [very slowly] a few m/s. Strap some large maneuvering thrusters, and I can strafe this monstrosity at hundreds of m/s side to side, up and down. But strap some 70 million worth of Avorion grade gyros in only a single direction, and the ship still cannot pitch, roll, or yaw.

Even the 10x10x10 Trinium engine can push the monster; strap it sideways and that should realistically be sufficient? Operate the strafing thrusters in opposite directions and I should be doing donuts at several times the speed of sound (I was over 300m/s strafing with only a couple medium sized directional thrusters). But no matter what arrangement I try, thrusters, gyros, or some combination thereof, I can't get my Super Star-Destroyer to steer!

Help!

As a new player I didn't get to experience the magic of loop commands.

However, I have taken to the mission commands rather well. I play 2 player, my friend controls the military vessels where I handle economy, scouting, mining, diplomacy, logistics, production, shipyards, etc. etc. You know, the fun stuff! 😄

However I feel Trade missions have to be the biggest hindrance to my play experience so far. In short: Trade missions need to last longer, perhaps in a similar way to mining missions.

I handle a fleet of 15+ trading vessels scattered across a quadrant of the galaxy map and having each missions only last 10-13 minutes on average means most of my time in this game is ordering merchant ships around. The direction this game has taken in 2.0 has made me feel developers want players more focused on macro-oriented game-play, and this mechanic goes against that philosophy.

I enjoy the mechanics of trading, but having to engage with those mechanics at this intensity really makes me feel like I need to make a decision between scaling my economy optimally or being able to enjoy my time in game. The fact mining missions are executed so well makes me think this could be a design oversight. I hope a developer can see how this can be frustrating to players that enjoy the game on a macro-oriented level.

Thank you for reading.

- TedRo

TLDR: Trading missions need to operate more like mining missions. I dislike having to reissue trade commands to my entire trade fleet every 10 minutes.

I am still at the beginning of the game with my Titan ship.
During the mission "Search the missing ship" I always get potatoes as a gift.
In a manual it says, potatoes buy the carbon factory. But there are 2 carnon factories on the map and unfortunately they only buy rice.

So, unless I'm wrong there are 3 possible percentages of the ore I'm getting.

1. The highest efficiency(84.7) with the rest contributing dps

2. The lowest efficiency(68.2) with the rest contributing dps

3. A random efficiency based on which laser dealt the damage last.

I thought this would be an easy question to find an answer for, but apparently not as I cannot find an answer anywhere.

I randomly encountered a Bottan smuggler ship in a smuggler hideout while removing stolen cargo identities. I interacted with Botton smuggler and he gave me package to drop off at a location. When I got to the location The Smuggler Boss mission updated. Issue resolved.

same about Rocket Factory / Servo Factory / High Capacity Lens Factory / Targetting System Factory / Tesla Coil Factory = zero

game does want you to make weapons for ships

WTF ???