[[MOD] Salvager/Miner range and auto turrets]

Have a poke around the "InventoryItemPrice.LUA"

 

There are two sections in there which add price if they're miner or salvager...both of them take the raw 'VALUE' variable and then add additional price to it

The raw 'value' has a reach calculation on it...but you don't want to mess with it there...you only want the miner/salvager. So the trick is to reduce it within those sections by a proportion to how much you added it on in the turretgenerator

 

    if object.stoneEfficiency > 0 then
        costFactor = 3.0

        local materialFactor = material.strengthFactor * 5.0
        local efficiencyFactor = object.stoneEfficiency * 8.0

        value = value * materialFactor
        value = value * (1.0 + efficiencyFactor)  --Put some kind of divide here for Miner
    end

    if object.metalEfficiency > 0 then
        costFactor = 3.0

        local efficiencyFactor = object.metalEfficiency * 8.0
        value = value * (1.0 + efficiencyFactor) --Put some kind of divide here for salvager
    end

[[MOD] Salvager/Miner range and auto turrets]

Wow...I never thought this thread would be resurrected

 

I took a look at your script and looks fine.

 

If you wanted to re-add the turrets then you could always add the commented line here (erm...without the comment syntax of course)

 

        end
    template:addWeapon(weapon)
    end
--template.automatic = true
    return template

[Caldari Raven (Eve-Online) Battleship]

Truly a thing of beauty

[a ship request ;)]

If some profile pictures (top, side, front) could be posted; I could take a bash at it. But please bear in mind that I don't do projects like these to any times scales. I just fit them in when I've got free time.

[White Star Remake]

nice work Havoc really nice work :)

 

will u post it in the workshop?

 

Already on m8 - there's even a link for it in between the two screenshots

 

It's... It's beautiful!

 

Can you post a screenshot of the cost and stats on the workshop page, if you don't mind? :D

 

Sigh...I suppose I should. Someone on steam asked in a rude way and I had to retort in a humorous way.

They'll be up there in about an hour or so

[White Star Remake]

And here she is

 

 

 

Workshop page

 

 

Here's the old one for comparison (urg.....ugly!)

[White Star Remake]

Been doing a lot of filling today, added some systems to see how it would perform. Those curves...mmmmm...sexy

 

Starting to come together now

 

 

If you haven't already figured it out...its a purely xanion build (with some iron for inertial stabs)

I will be uploading to steam when its all painted up and ready to go

[White Star Remake]

I've finally let my own disgust of my original WhiteStar wash over me and now i'm re-doing it. Here's the progress

 

New White Star

[[MOD] Weapon Engineering (Turret Editor)]

That's right, the prices are controlled in the 'inventoryitemprice.lua'

[[MOD] Weapon Engineering (Turret Editor)]

Would you be able to create a similar mod for turret copying?

Requiring material and credit input in order to copy a turret you've found - perhaps even using the assembly blocks (similar to fighter production)

[Shop regular inventory]

I'd like to suggest that shops have a number of items that they always stock in addition to their random stock.

Their regular items could held in higher numbers and be generated based off seed. Perhaps 2-4 types at most being regular and the rest being random.

This would be great for players looking to get consistent weapons on their ships. They could buy out the regular stock of a station then come back later and get more after the stocks refresh.

[Modified turret listing by TYPE to highlight breaks between groups? Please?]

I've also been putting thought to this problem - A simpler solution would be to add simple clear weapon icons to the inventory - y'know the icons that appear in the shops

[New Build Tools]

Resurrecting - (to save me posting duplicate)

 

I would like to re-suggest being able to toggle the visibility of selected blocks and block-types. And the turn off the snapping of selected blocks

 

I often build the shell of the ship before adding the innards, especially for more complicated ships. And it gets messy when I have to manoeuvre the camera inside the ship

[Artist questions - Turret mod (visual)]

They look beautiful..but one question. What are the poly counts on those?

Even with smoothing, they look pretty high

 

Bearing in mind some of the default turrets poly counts could probably be in single digits

[[MOD] Havoc Mod Pack [ver: 0.12.7]]

ooh, new update. Back to the drawing board :)

The salvager accuracy update will no doubt help (I'm hoping it'll mean i don't need to touch those)

[[MOD] Havoc Mod Pack [ver: 0.12.7]]

Hey guys just trying to help but I've also tried dig in the files and see whats wrong with salvaging lasers but I don't really know but just a thing I thought.. Could the problem be with beam width? or tracking speed? I mean the beams are so BIG

 

I wish that the width changes were the cause of the issue. But in testing i had em stripped down to the defaults and still (occasionally) had some turrets that wouldn't work*.

 

The only theory i have left is that some very subtle math glitch (we're talking small decimals) is throwing off the hit mechanics**

I wish I had more time to look into the [shotCreationPosition] which is a vec3 value. I had this theory that if I could increase the Z-axis origin of the beam a few units further out from the gun centre...then the beam endpoint would also be further out (so it was appear the beam was shooting through the object) -> that would then force the collision and thus the normal damage calc to kick in.

 

*The issue described is that they appeared to fire and hit wreckage, but no damage was being caused.

 

**Bit of math: BeamOrigin(x,y,z) -> Target(x,y,z) ....but the target is short by a tiny amount

[[MOD] Havoc Mod Pack [ver: 0.12.7]]

Mod file updated and then i'm giving it a rest for a while

Don't use in a server/client situation, it's not tested (unless you want to dabble and try and get it working yourself)

 

I've updated the link on the original post with a different filename, its no longer called scripts.zip - you still have to install the contents in the scripts folder of your install directory...just line up the files and overwrite

 

What I've done:

Took a backup of my modded scripts folder to a separate location

Let steam verify install and put the game back to defaults

Used winmerge to compare the differences between default <> modded

Separated the modded files and uploaded em for you to grab

 

Please note, salvagers are still a bit tricky. But I've fixed the \inv command that comes with the command package so that it'll generate modded turrets (whereas it only used to generate default turrets).

 

There's some other bits and bobs in that which weren't on the original release. I'm running with complexes and asteroid moving. And there's a load of other tweaks that I can't remember.

[[MOD] Havoc Mod Pack [ver: 0.12.7]]

I'll blitz my install and take it to defaults and then apply the file I've uploaded.

 

Give it a fresh test to see what (if any) is wrong

[[MOD] Havoc Mod Pack [ver: 0.12.7]]

Ignore this bit: Ahh - I've spotted something on that last post - I'm only running as a singple player, not server-client

Since I built this for single player, I'm going state that it's not intended for multiplayer.

Apologies for that oversight. I'll amend the original post

 

Edit: I'm going to take a serious look at the salvagers; something inconsistant going on which I need to pin down and fix

(Having spent 30 mill on ogonite turrets and them not working, it's given me a push to sort it out)

 

Edit 2: I think i might know why some salvagers arn't working. I read someone mentioning an issue with turret size. I'll keep digging

 

Edit 3: Not having any luck in locating the cause. There doesn't appear to be any logic to it, some turrets work and some dont. I've even ruled out powered salvagers as a the cause as found some that work.

Been mucking about with the localposition and shotcreationposition values but not getting anywhere there either

[[MOD] Havoc Mod Pack [ver: 0.12.7]]

I have the same issue, but it only seems to effect Salvage Lasers that use power during use.

Unfortunately, I've not managed to track down the cause. And I've tried all sorts of tweaks and changes. It's most odd

 

Regular Salvagers should be okay though

[[MOD] Havoc Mod Pack [ver: 0.12.7]]

@Daemon - those xsotan figures are correct. One of the many tweaks - I like lots of turrets & ta for sorting RodentVentura out

 

@RodentVentura - Not sure what went on at your end; I've re-downloaded the link I updated and compared the crewboard.lua with the one i'm using and I confirm its the same file (the working one).

Still, you're sorted now thanks to Daemon. There's not much difference between his and my versions. So whatever works :) ...

 

 

[Modding Question: How are Upgrades Stored?]

You could have a look at the [statsbonuses] in the enum.html (in the documentation)

 

It has these you could play around with:

 

RadarReach

HiddenSectorRadarReach

ScannerReach

HyperspaceReach

HyperspaceCooldown

HyperspaceRechargeEnergy

ShieldDurability

ShieldRecharge

Velocity

Acceleration

GeneratedEnergy

EnergyCapacity

BatteryRecharge

ArbitraryTurrets

UnarmedTurrets

ArmedTurrets

CargoHold

Engineers

Mechanics

Gunners

Miners

Security

Attackers

Sergeants

Lieutenants

Commanders

Generals

Captains

 

Just give it a linear value based on tech or distanct to core (or even material) - and then you eliminate any randomness

[[MOD] Havoc Mod Pack [ver: 0.12.7]]

Yeah, i just overwritten the file.

I don't have much time or i'm too tired to do proper versioning.

[Modding Question: How are Upgrades Stored?]

It's a little confusing what you're trying to make; but from my interpretation you want to gain some level of control over how your upgrades are generated.

Personally, i wouldn't use the seed in any part. I'd probably use an alternate, custom function that i'd have control over instead. Possibly tapping into the distance to core and some RNG for good measure.

 

Also as your original posts how the upgrades are stored: When the lua runs and creates an upgrade. That upgrade is stored as an object, with it's own set of properties and methods.

 

The last bit of advice, and i hope this really helps. Check out the Avorion\Documentation folder in your installation folder. It has many of the properties/methods that can be called upon and is a great modding resource.

 

 

[[MOD] Havoc Mod Pack [ver: 0.12.7]]

I 'think' i've fixed the crewboard.lau now (with the modded one updated for this version). A quick test at my end and the hire crew option on stations appears and functions as intended.

 

The tweaks to the custom fighters I hope you'll like. Fighters actually work pretty well (Only custom ones though!)

They're faster, more manoeuvrable and have shields.

Default fighters are still rubbish due to the 0hp bug

 

For those not familiar with the mod, check out this link for it's usage: https://www.avorion.net/forum/index.php/topic,3044.msg16336.html#msg16336

 

ps - have implemented the fix for summoning multiple fighters. Cheers Raio_Verusia

 

Just re-download from the original link to get the changes