lmss1994 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Does Avorion have an advertisement problem? This question fist bother me wen i stated viewing a gameplay series on YouTube, I had a different impression before viewing the gameplay, that the game had only Squares blocks and it would play like other similar games. Gladly i was wrong and that gameplay made me decide to buy a copy of the game on steam. And so for a few day i drooped out of the question. But after i made a post on 9gag joking about "what if minecraft and EVE online had a twins" ( http://9gag.com/gag/abp5E99 ) I had a discussion that brought that question back to me. So after that i created another post on 9gag to see if i could come with a plausible conclusion to this. ( http://9gag.com/gag/appvK4W ) In this post i compared one of the advertisement that popped out in google search with 4 screenshot of ships submitted in the creation section of this forum. This post was a hit, with 1802 up votes and still growing, and a large action in the comment section that helped me come with some conclusion to the question. 1º- People compere Avorion to Space engineers and some times to Starmade, mostly because of its block aspect. 2º- The ships, most of the comment wore about the ships, mostly about the 40k Retribution-class, this will be connected to 2 factor: its complexity in design, and its iconic and popularity. 3º- That people who have seen the videos of gameplay have a total different opinion vs the people that have only seen pictures. 4º- Google search images, the ones that look more official are the one that have only cubic based ships. So now i would like to know what you thing about this subject to paint a better picture about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedamnatus Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 4º- Google search images, the ones that look more official are the one that have only cubic based ships. The game's ship generator works that way. It cannot produce meaningful-looking ships, instead they usually all look like a mess of blocks (except for cargo freighters). I'd say it's more of a station generator, in my opinion ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmss1994 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 You are correct in that, but when it come to creative games it's better to show its potential in turning your ideas in to rock solid creations I'm going to say that "the sims" is a good example for this, in its advertisement it concentrates more in what you can do and create Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineEvil Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Well, Avorion was recently 1# trend on Steam (dunno what the situation is now), so its not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunamik Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Well on release, there was very few player creations... This has obviously changed, so with this many ships, videos and screenshots, it could be worth tweaking steam page and other advertisements channels, I am sure that most people wouldn´t mind if their creations are used this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviLBison Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Hey there, if a german streamer called Hirnsturz (or Minyas if you prefer) hadn't streamed Avorion, I wouldn't have bought it. Steam does show it serveral times to me before, and the displayed pictures aren't that interesting. If you've showed me a WH40K ship or one of the Enterprises or so I'd totally bought is way earlier. From the steampage, there is nothing that shows you the level of "addiction" this games creates. So yeah I think the advertisement could be done a bit better. Well, what to say. I'm in love with Avorion. So I thought I make my self a little advertising. Shameless me is shameless. here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cy414 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 similar story for me. if scott manly hadnt put up a lets play i wouldnt have known about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunamik Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 In fact I also learned about the game from streamer, spacegame junkie if I recall correctly... Otherwise, I would just skip by... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada115 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Only found this because of XpGamers play of it. but soon as i saw him play it, i bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHavoc Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I'd be totally happy for my shipyard pics to be used for advertising to help grow the game. Even Homer here would be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grungle Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 From the steampage, there is nothing that shows you the level of "addiction" this games creates. here Absolutely, the steampage makes the game look like utter crapola. Need to show the customer what you can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobosaku Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 eviL_Bison you missed to point out what makes Avorion a quite unusual product on Steam EA. It has actual gameplay which goes beyond the usual tech demo "give me money now!"-attitude of Steam EA games. Building fancy ships from Star Wars can be done in many sandbox games, but I fail to remember any game which has that much to do at release on Steam EA. Further on, apart from the circle jerking enemy ships and the hyperspace blockers trapping me forever in a sector (which was patched a day after, as we know) there were no major bugs. I've actually had the same prejudice as your responder to your thread. Thought I'm going to add just another of these games with a lot of potential to my library. And sadly nobody will be able to see what makes Avorion special from screenshots or feature descriptions, because Steam EA enables developers to be quite vague in their descriptions in relation to actual currently playable content. Apart from people actually trying out or watching gameplay, it's quite hard to catch browsing steam users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hûvy Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 The game does feel to be gaining a steady increase of players though, there are more YouTube videos, streams and user creations everyday, but i cant predict how long we will still get new players for if nothing changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OndeTv Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 4º- Google search images, the ones that look more official are the one that have only cubic based ships. The game's ship generator works that way. It cannot produce meaningful-looking ships, instead they usually all look like a mess of blocks (except for cargo freighters). I'd say it's more of a station generator, in my opinion ;D I disagree on this. As an example, if you go to found a new ship and zip through the 3 current styles while cycling through a seed of 1-50 (or more if you wish), many of the generated ships look quite decent. If you then start to mess with scale and volume you get even more variety. Sure, there are some ship types that can look like a mess (but don't necessarily do), but i am pretty sure some of these are supposed to look messy anyway (f ex alien ships ;)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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